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JustRalph
5/9/2008
7:10:03 PM
I know I am probably driving you guys nuts.........

but anybody care to tell me if they have written a UDM that can look for certain comments on the pacelines of a horse?

Such as "Weakened" "Faltered" etc?

still playing and tinkering..........Thanks!

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JimG
5/9/2008
9:32:12 PM
Ralph,

I've never written one for that but what I would do is go into filters and do 2CALLPOSTMAX02 which is avoid horses greater than 2nd at 2nd call last out. In other words only look at horses first or second at the second call last out. Then add to that in the drop menu Finish Position last out Min = 3, which will only include horses 3rd or worse at the finish. You may want to add a maximum there as well depending on how bad a quitter you want to tag with a udm.

Hope that made some sense. Not sure it did.

Jim

~Edited by: JimG  on:  5/9/2008  at:  9:32:12 PM~

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TPW
5/10/2008
8:26:23 AM
Ralph,

I would encourage you to experiment with comments. One of my best performing UDM's has comments as part of the core definition.

Terry

~Edited by: TPW  on:  5/10/2008  at:  8:26:23 AM~

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jeff
5/10/2008
3:59:31 PM
About 2 years ago there was an Angles thread started by a gentleman named Boxcar on the PA site. The thread received a lot of attention and stayed live for months. During that time I received scores of email requests from current (and potential) JCapper customers asking me to perform hard database testing of the angles presented in the thread.

Ever curious as to what I might find I dove right in and did some heavy R&D. If you believed the posts in the thread the angles were supposed to be the key to the mint.

But like a lot of things I've tested - actually, this is true of almost every idea someone else has ever given me - the angles in the thread didn't produce overlay winners anywhere close to the claims made in the thread. In fact, many of the angles produced long term results WORSE than what you would get if you opened up the Data Window and just hit the ALL button.

But the research wasn't without merit. Because some of the angles produced long term results WORSE than what you would get if you opened up the Data Window and just hit the ALL button, I added preset filters to the program to AVOID horses fitting patterns defined by the angles - and in so doing enabled a very non traditional way to improve overall results.

What does any of this have to do with chartcaller comments?

When I added the ability to analyze angles in the Data Window I created an Angles Field in the PlayList File. The field itself contains embedded "codes" to designate True/False as to whether or not a given horse fits the definition of each Angle.

At the same time I was looking at these angles, I was also looking at chartcaller's comments. To make a long story short, my R&D into chartcaller's comments revealed several relevant areas (roi-wise) out of the the myriad of different things a chartcaller might try to tell you with a comment. Again, hard database testing dispelled many of the myths about chartcaller comments I had heard from other "handicappers" almost my entire life.

I added "codes" to the Angles Field to enable the Profile Marker and Data Window to identify horses fitting the relevant categories turned up by my R&D.

I then added Preset Filters to the program - enabling the user to write UDMs to either "grab" or "reject" horses having eventful races in their records as described by the chartcaller. I created the filter codes in a way that enables the user to further break things down by the number of starts back that the incident took place.

The Preset Filter Codes covering chartcaller comments are:
BORE=     require bore in/out LR or 2bk
BORE1= require bore in/out LR
BORE2= require bore in/out 2bk
BORE3= require bore in/out 3bk
BOREX avoid bore in/out LR or 2bk
BORE1X avoid bore in/out LR
BORE2X avoid bore in/out 2bk
BORE3X avoid bore in/out 3bk
TROUBLE1= require altered trip LR
TROUBLE2= require altered trip 2bk
TROUBLE3= require altered trip 3bk
TROUBLE1X avoid altered trip LR
TROUBLE2X avoid altered trip 2bk
TROUBLE3X avoid altered trip 3bk
WIDE1= require wide trip LR
WIDE2= require wide trip 2bk
WIDE3= require wide trip 3bk
WIDE1X avoid wide trip LR
WIDE2X avoid wide trip 2bk
WIDE3X avoid wide trip 3bk
COMMENT= require favorable chart comments
COMMENTX avoid favorable chart comments

As TPW suggested, if you do the work, you just might find that some of these Preset Filter codes have the ability to improve the strength of (at least some of) your UDMs.


-jp

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~Edited by: jeff  on:  5/10/2008  at:  3:59:31 PM~

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JustRalph
5/12/2008
3:26:38 AM
disregard,,,,,,,,,,figured it out myself.

~Edited by: JustRalph  on:  5/12/2008  at:  3:26:38 AM~

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JustRalph
5/12/2008
4:46:07 AM
JimG

Tried it your way........works Great, Thanks!!

I appreciate all the help from everybody who posted.



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