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Caveat
6/12/2025
7:36:12 AM

Is there a reason why F3 would get a "na" when its 0 or - for its raw
value?

Yes, its most likely a line that wouldn't be used for horses best line
but
It can be crucial in seeing if its speed can disrupt other horses .

I'm looking at getting an Early Energy % for each horse

Would it be possible to put in exact value instead of "na" ?

jeff
6/12/2025
6:12:27 PM

I made a decision to do it that way (for display purposes only in the PPs Generator) when Jim explained the thought process behind his figure making methodology back when I was making the switch to HDW in 2009/2010.

If a horse slows down enough in the final 3/8ths, its HDW Late Pace Fig (also known as F3) for that running line can be zero or even a negative number.

In cases where there isn't enough data (for example a marathon or otherwise seldom run distance with an unusually fast or slow pace) Jim might decide the best decision is to not award a Late Pace Fig at all - as opposed to giving the horse a number with a high likelihood of being bad.

Below is a cut and paste from my source code that displays HDW F3 Late Pace for the current running line in the PPs Generator:

        '816-825 BRIS/HDW Late Pace Fig
        strReturnValue = i(r + 815)    
    
        If Val(strReturnValue) > 0 Then
            strReturnValue = Format(strReturnValue, "###")
        Else
            strReturnValue = "na"
        End If

Note that r is the number representing each running line. For the most recent running line back, r=1. For the second running line back, r=2. For the third, r=3, etc.

If the F3 for a running line is not greater than zero:

F3 displayed for that running line is "na" (without the quotes.)

And that means one of three cases:

1. The horse was awarded a negative Late Pace Fig.

2. The horse was awarded a Late Pace Fig = 0.

3. The horse wasn't awarded a Late Pace Fig at all.

Suggestions:

• When you see "na" you could key a zero into your app.

If that doesn't work and you need the actual negative number:

• Parse it from field #'s '816-825 in the .JCP file.

Also, whenever a horse is awarded a Late Pace Fig greater than zero:

It gets displayed. There shouldn't be any cases where a positive number is displayed as "na" (without the quotes.)

-jp
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~Edited by: jeff on: 6/12/2025 at: 6:12:27 PM~

Caveat
6/12/2025
6:38:13 PM

Thank you....

To be more open and get you to understand why it causes a issue is that I print out the PP's to PDF and load it into an AI

So that "na" is useless in computing numbers....

There is also a "STR" number but I don't know if I can do anything with that..If it was listed in the Pars , maybe I could have :(

~Edited by: Caveat on: 6/12/2025 at: 6:38:13 PM~

jeff
6/12/2025
7:22:11 PM

AI should easily be able to work around the "na" characters.

If you're using AI, instruct it to convert the text "na" characters to a numeric zero.

Alternately, because the text or string variable "na" without the quotes has a length of 2 characters, instruct the AI to use Val(F3) instead of the raw F3.

In cases where F3 is a number, for example 63, the AI will come up with an F3 of 63 calculated as:

63 = Val(63)

In cases where F3 is "na" without the quotes,the AI will come up with 0 calculated as:

0 = Val(na)

Alternately, you could instruct the AI to parse the F3 from the .JCP file.

Provided you are actually downloading .JCP files. (Last time I checked you weren't.)

Which begs the question:

WHERE are you getting PDF reports of JCapper PPs?

At this point I need to make you -- and everybody for that matter -- aware of the following:

You can share .JCP files within your immediate family (father/son, brother, etc.)

You can also share .JCP files with members of a team or syndicate, provided you clear it with HDW at time of signup, and they setup a download account in the name of the team or syndicate.

But if you are an individual:

And you are getting .JCP files from another player outside of your immediate family (father/son, brother, etc.) --

If HDW or Equibase catches either of you sharing data:

HDW (per terms in their contract with Equibase) is going to be forced to shut off BOTH of your download accounts PERMANENTLY.

It's not something they publicize.

But it's something I've definitely seen them forced to do in the past.

BOTH ACCOUNTS. Permanently.

-jp.
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Caveat
6/12/2025
8:28:57 PM

I started to dabble into AI a few weeks ago....
I used PDF files from Twinspires and from various
other sources on the internet..
Being a previous subscriber for a number of years, I also have old Jcapper files which I'm in the process of testing, hence some of these questions.
I hope that isn't an issue.

jeff
6/12/2025
9:01:32 PM

Using your own older files - not an issue (perfectly ok.)

Getting data from other players for racecards you haven't paid for or sending data to other players for racecards they haven't paid for - very much an issue. (Not ok, and all download accounts involved put at risk.)

Equibase house rules. HDW has to follow them (as do I.)

Carry on.

-jp
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